Comments on: Hibernate hates Spring http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/ because haughaus was already taken Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:16:38 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Andre Prasetya http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3908 Andre Prasetya Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:16:38 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3908 After several years, I searched this thread again and I think what Gavin said is true. I used Seam, EJB3 and JSF. Its a WOW. keep up the good work! After several years, I searched this thread again and I think what Gavin said is true. I used Seam, EJB3 and JSF. Its a WOW. keep up the good work!

]]> By: Tony Gunter http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3901 Tony Gunter Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:57:26 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3901 If Spring and Hibernate were my children, I'd make them stand in the kitchen with their noses touching for ten minutes, then hug and tell each other "I love you." If Spring and Hibernate were my children, I’d make them stand in the kitchen with their noses touching for ten minutes, then hug and tell each other “I love you.”

]]> By: ESB http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3258 ESB Wed, 02 May 2007 17:08:59 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3258 [...] classes are intrusive and offer no advantage over using for example the Hibernate API directly [9]. In response the Spring developers have made it possible to directly use the Hibernate and JPA [...] [...] classes are intrusive and offer no advantage over using for example the Hibernate API directly [9]. In response the Spring developers have made it possible to directly use the Hibernate and JPA [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3104 Anonymous Thu, 04 Jan 2007 00:11:49 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3104 Gavin must be the biggest asshole on earth. My favorite quotation of his is: "If you absolutely insist on this shitty Joshua Block defensive coding style (which is only useful for people who don't write unit tests)". Who does he think he is? Gavin must be the biggest asshole on earth. My favorite quotation of his is: “If you absolutely insist on this shitty Joshua Block defensive coding style (which is only useful for people who don’t write unit tests)”. Who does he think he is?

]]> By: Jack http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3098 Jack Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:56:40 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3098 Gavin, your product is really great, but your personallity makes you a complete asshole, it's a shame that some brilliant people think that they are better people just because they can do brilliant things. To be thankfull and to respect others is what makes someone a great person. Hope this message doesn't bothers you, just be cool with people and people will love you as they love your work. Gavin, your product is really great, but your personallity makes you a complete asshole, it’s a shame that some brilliant people think that they are better people just because they can do brilliant things. To be thankfull and to respect others is what makes someone a great person. Hope this message doesn’t bothers you, just be cool with people and people will love you as they love your work.

]]> By: Hibernates loves Spring? » Bogle’s Blog http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3103 Hibernates loves Spring? » Bogle’s Blog Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:19:17 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3103 [...] The height of the friction between the two camps was perhaps best captured in a blog post from last year by Scott Haug, a developer at Jobster, entitled “Hibernate Hates Spring.” [...] [...] The height of the friction between the two camps was perhaps best captured in a blog post from last year by Scott Haug, a developer at Jobster, entitled “Hibernate Hates Spring.” [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3101 Anonymous Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:46:30 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3101 I'm working in the same project (25 programmers) for about 2 years now. It's a HUGE web project. Everything has been done with Hibernate 3.0 / Spring 1.*. After this experience I've got something to say: Hibernate sucks. It is not flexible and good enough for bigger project. The list of bugs is only growing. Worst: the hibernate 3.2, it is not fully compatible with 3.0, you have to modify the queries to do the migration. In a project like ours, it is simply unthinkable. I heard that if you want to migrate to Spring 2.*, you also need some 'adaptation'. What's wrong with you guys? You think that everything is a joke? Bottomline: Pure JDBC with plain EJB do the job just fine... I’m working in the same project (25 programmers) for about 2 years now. It’s a HUGE web project. Everything has been done with Hibernate 3.0 / Spring 1.*. After this experience I’ve got something to say: Hibernate sucks. It is not flexible and good enough for bigger project. The list of bugs is only growing.

Worst: the hibernate 3.2, it is not fully compatible with 3.0, you have to modify the queries to do the migration. In a project like ours, it is simply unthinkable.

I heard that if you want to migrate to Spring 2.*, you also need some ‘adaptation’. What’s wrong with you guys? You think that everything is a joke?

Bottomline: Pure JDBC with plain EJB do the job just fine…

]]> By: Anonymous http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3100 Anonymous Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:44:09 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3100 I'm working in the same project (25 programmers) for about 2 years now. It's a HUGE web project. Everything has been done with Hibernate 3.0 / Spring 1.*. After this experience I've got something to say: Hibernate sucks. It is not flexible and good enough for bigger project. Worst: the hibernate 3,2 it is not fully compatible with 3.0, you have to migrate a the queries to do so. In a project like ours, it is simply unthinkable. I heard that if you want to migrate to Spring 2.*, you also need some 'adaptation'. What's wrong with you guys? You think that everything is a joke? Bottomline: Pure JDBC with plain EJB do the job just fine... I’m working in the same project (25 programmers) for about 2 years now. It’s a HUGE web project. Everything has been done with Hibernate 3.0 / Spring 1.*. After this experience I’ve got something to say: Hibernate sucks. It is not flexible and good enough for bigger project.

Worst: the hibernate 3,2 it is not fully compatible with 3.0, you have to migrate a the queries to do so. In a project like ours, it is simply unthinkable.

I heard that if you want to migrate to Spring 2.*, you also need some ‘adaptation’. What’s wrong with you guys? You think that everything is a joke?

Bottomline: Pure JDBC with plain EJB do the job just fine…

]]> By: chuck liddell http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3102 chuck liddell Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:47:30 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3102 I think Gavin King will win in a street fight I think Gavin King will win in a street fight

]]> By: Jimmy http://houseofhaug.wordpress.com/2005/08/12/hibernate-hates-spring/#comment-3099 Jimmy Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:54:19 +0000 http://houseofhaug.net/blog/?p=56#comment-3099 Who would win a bare knuckle street fight, Rod Johnson or Gavin King? Who would win a bare knuckle street fight, Rod Johnson or Gavin King?

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